{"id":11065,"date":"2022-07-28T12:33:45","date_gmt":"2022-07-28T10:33:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/gaia.ub.edu\/?p=11065"},"modified":"2022-07-28T12:40:27","modified_gmt":"2022-07-28T10:40:27","slug":"veus-de-gaia-la-maquina-dels-descobriments","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gaia.ub.edu\/?p=11065&lang=ca","title":{"rendered":"Veus de Gaia, la \u00abm\u00e0quina dels descobriments\u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Merc\u00e8 Romero i Josep Manel Carrasco s\u00f3n dos de la vintena d\u2019investigadors del grup Gaia UB, o sigui, dues de les veus de la missi\u00f3 ESA Gaia. En aquesta entrevista a la web de la Facultat de F\u00edsica de la UB parlen de Gaia. <\/p>\n<p>ESA Gaia va fer p\u00fablic al mes de juny el tercer release, el Gaia Data Release (Gaia DR3), \u00e9s a dir, les dades recopilades pel telescopi en els primers tres anys de la missi\u00f3. Va tenir molta repercussi\u00f3 medi\u00e0tica. \u00abEstem molt contents d\u2019estar en totes les etapes del proc\u00e9s i de l\u2019impacte en la comunitat cient\u00edfica de les dades que es publiquen\u00bb i \u00abmolt contents de veure que el que abans era una promesa, ara \u00e9s la realitat. \u00c9s incre\u00efble.\u00bb diuen, respectivament, Josep Manel Carrasco i Merc\u00e8 Romero.<\/p>\n<p><strong><br \/>\nGaia, de prop<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Aquests dos investigadors del grup Gaia de la Universitat de Barcelona (IEEC-ICCUB) expliquen d\u2019una manera f\u00e0cil com \u00e9s Gaia: un telescopi amb diferents instruments, que abasten diversos camps cient\u00edfics, amb 106 detectors. En concret, detectors de posici\u00f3, dist\u00e0ncia i velocitat de les estrelles en el cel; de fotometria, per saber-ne el color, per exemple; i d\u2019espectrografia, per con\u00e8ixer-ne par\u00e0metres f\u00edsics, com ara la velocitat radial, temperatures i gravetats, entre d\u2019altres.<\/p>\n<p>En Josep Manel treballa sobretot a nivell espectrofotom\u00e8tric, aix\u00ed com en l\u2019estudi de les dades, i la Merc\u00e8 \u00e9s experta en el camp de l\u2019astrometria, que estudia la posici\u00f3 i sobretot el moviment de les estrelles. Tots dos coincideixen a afirmar que \u00abel salt qualitatiu dels resultats entre el Gaia DR2 i el Gaia DR3 \u00e9s degut al nombre m\u00e9s gran d\u2019observacions de cada estrella, millor calibratge i m\u00e9s quantitat d\u2019estrelles observades. Aix\u00ed mateix, s\u2019ha publicat nova informaci\u00f3, com ara 200 milions d\u2019espectres de baixa resoluci\u00f3 i 30 milions de velocitats radials.<\/p>\n<p>Amb Gaia DR4, encara s\u2019ampliar\u00e0 m\u00e9s.<\/p>\n<p>\u00abEl m\u00e9s important \u00e9s que tenim un instrument molt prec\u00eds i que tenim molt per triar: 1.800 milions d\u2019estrelles\u00bb, comenten. Al Josep Manel, el que m\u00e9s li ha sobtat del Gaia DR3 \u00e9s \u00abque la nostra gal\u00e0xia \u00e9s una can\u00edbal d\u2019altres de m\u00e9s petites. Quan mirem com es mouen les estrelles, veiem que algunes pugen i baixen de la gal\u00e0xia perqu\u00e8 en el passat una de m\u00e9s petita que la nostra va xocar i va travessar el disc de la Via L\u00e0ctia, de manera que va deixar aquest moviment residual a la resta d\u2019estrelles\u00bb. A la Merc\u00e8, tot la sorpr\u00e8n, en especial \u00abla rebuda que ha tingut la publicaci\u00f3 de dades de Gaia i la capacitat dels diferents equips de produir cat\u00e0legs secundaris a partir de les dades p\u00fabliques\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p>Diuen que la filosofia de Gaia \u00e9s donar les dades a la comunitat cient\u00edfica per fer entre tots la millor ci\u00e8ncia possible. \u00c9s d\u2019acc\u00e9s lliure per a tothom. Gaia ha superat el Hubble en nombre d\u2019articles, perqu\u00e8 la qualitat de les  dades que aporta \u00e9s molt gran.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ci\u00e8ncia computacional<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Comenten que, abans, els astr\u00f2noms tenien la vena m\u00e9s rom\u00e0ntica de mirar al cel, per\u00f2 que ara, tot i que es continua fent, es treballa amb ordinadors, analitzant dades. \u00abEstem tota l\u2019estona de cara a la pantalla. El sat\u00e8l\u00b7lit t\u2019envia les dades al teu ordinador i tu mires com s\u00f3n. Aix\u00f2 no li treu m\u00e0gia\u00bb, diuen.<\/p>\n<p>Despr\u00e9s del Gaia DR3 vindran Gaia DR4 i DR5. Diuen que \u00abcom que Gaia s\u2019ha comportat tan b\u00e9, podrem ampliar la missi\u00f3 prevista de cinc a deu anys. La missi\u00f3 nominal va comen\u00e7ar el 2014 i t\u00e9 combustible fins al 2024 o 2025\u00bb, apunten. Ja es pensa en la seg\u00fcent Gaia, la que es preveu que observi en el rang espectrom\u00e8tric de l\u2019infraroig.<\/p>\n<p>Expliquen que la missi\u00f3 Gaia reporta a Espanya un 13 % del total de contractes industrials. \u00abAix\u00f2 dona una expertesa a la ind\u00fastria espanyola, que permet crear nova tecnologia.\u00bb A m\u00e9s a m\u00e9s, en l\u2019\u00e0mbit acad\u00e8mic, ara hi ha treballs de recerca basats en dades de Gaia de tots els nivells: des d\u2019alumnes d\u2019institut fins a estudiants doctorals. \u00abAproximes la ci\u00e8ncia i l\u2019astronomia al ciutad\u00e0. Hi ha un retorn a la societat\u00bb, comenten.<\/p>\n<p>Estan conven\u00e7uts que la ci\u00e8ncia \u00e9s molt atractiva i s\u00e0via. \u00abEt dona una riquesa sobre el teu lloc a l\u2019Univers. Som una estrella m\u00e9s, en una gal\u00e0xia m\u00e9s, en un Univers que \u00e9s molt gran i que et dona aquesta perspectiva c\u00f2smica que no som res especial. No som al centre de l\u2019Univers, ni tan sols al centre de la nostra gal\u00e0xia. Tota aquesta sensaci\u00f3 la podem transmetre gr\u00e0cies al fet que ho estem demostrant amb dades reals. Ens fa entendre m\u00e9s la nostra pr\u00f2pia estrella i el sistema solar; com es formen els planetes\u00bb, afirmen.<\/p>\n<p><strong>El grup de recerca Gaia UB<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Merc\u00e8 Romero i Josep Manel Carrasco diuen que el seu grup de recerca Gaia UB es caracteritza per la cohesi\u00f3 i col\u00b7laboraci\u00f3 i per la seva interdisciplinarietat.<\/p>\n<p>\u00abA Gaia UB tenim expertesa en molts dels camps de l\u2019astrof\u00edsica. Dins del Consorci, el nostre equip est\u00e0 molt ben vist. Com que estem en totes les etapes del sat\u00e8l\u00b7lit, tenim coneixement multidisciplinari\u00bb, comenten.<\/p>\n<p>Insisteixen que tot el coneixement que assoleixen no \u00e9s per a ells, sin\u00f3 per a tothom. \u00abAmb Gaia DR3, tenim 1.800 milions d\u2019estrelles que no podem analitzar sols Gaia UB. La filosofia \u00e9s oberta, en el sentit que la ci\u00e8ncia es far\u00e0 millor com m\u00e9s persones estudi\u00efn aquestes dades.\u00bb<\/p>\n<p>Foto de portada  Els protagonistes, amb una maqueta del sat\u00e8l\u00b7lit Hipparcos, predecessor de Gaia, que es guarda a la setena planta de l&#8217;edifici de la Facultat de F\u00edsica.<\/p>\n<p>L&#8217;original d&#8217;aquesta entrevista el podeu trobar a:<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.ub.edu\/portal\/web\/fisica\/merce-romero-i-josep-manel-carrasco<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/m.facebook.com\/story.php?story_fbid=422431279903124&#038;id=100064087655696<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"ca\" dir=\"ltr\">Merc\u00e8 Romero i Josep Manel Carrasco, investigadors de  <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/GaiaUB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@GaiaUB<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/IEEC_space?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@IEEC_space<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ICC_UB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@ICC_UB<\/a>) expliquen la missi\u00f3 <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ESAGaia?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@ESAGaia<\/a> per &#39;cartografiar&#39; la <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/ViaL%C3%A0ctia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#ViaL\u00e0ctia<\/a> fent <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/ci%C3%A8nciaoberta?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#ci\u00e8nciaoberta<\/a>.<br \/>A la imatge, amb una maqueta del sat\u00e8l.lit <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/Hipparcos?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#Hipparcos<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2734\ufe0f<a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/4gOHBkAz9v\">https:\/\/t.co\/4gOHBkAz9v<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/Astrof%C3%ADsica?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#Astrof\u00edsica<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/RecercaUB?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#RecercaUB<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/rOOKMnsSVp\">pic.twitter.com\/rOOKMnsSVp<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Facultat de F\u00edsica UB (@FisicaUB) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/FisicaUB\/status\/1552273564421718018?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">July 27, 2022<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" data-instgrm-captioned data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/CghE73yI-EU\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"14\" style=\" background:#FFF; 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En aquesta entrevista a la web de la Facultat de F\u00edsica de la UB parlen de Gaia. 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